r/agedlikemilk 4d ago 'MURICA 1

One year since this. Celebrities

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u/Tayo826 has provided this detailed explanation:

A Russian propagandist said the U.S. military (the they/them army) wouldn’t last 10 minutes against Russia. The Russian military’s performance in the invasion of Ukraine has put this claim into question.


Is this explanation a genuine attempt at providing additional info or context? If it is please upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.

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u/PhyterNL 4d ago

Anyone can bring 300 people together to take a photo-op. It'll look dramatic, it'll look dense, it'll look big! It'll also be a lie.

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u/poopellar 4d ago Starstruck

Bring 300 reddit mods together to take a photo-op. They'll be dramatic, they're dense, they're big! they'll also lie.

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u/Random_puns 4d ago

....and 298 of them will be bots

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u/flameocalcifer 4d ago

Beep blop 🤖 I'm a mod

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u/Elise_93 4d ago

Monaco (2nd tiniest country) with their 255 soldiers: "You should be very afraid!"

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u/CambridgeRunner 4d ago hehehehe Bravo Grande! I'm Deceased

I think there’s no question that Russia has the second greatest army in the world Ukraine.

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u/OrangeJr36 4d ago

My personal favorite, the Was/Were Army.

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u/Tayo826 4d ago

What about has/been?

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u/TheGingerBeardsman 3d ago

The problem is that the Russian military Has always Been dogshit. Historically, they've always just thrown bodies into the meat grinder until the war is over. Low morale and soldiers that don't want to be there is par for the course with Russia.

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u/OffendedByMyInnuendo 3d ago

They ain't a has been if they never was

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u/GenericFatGuy 3d ago

Reminds me of that old quip from the Beatles when asked if Ringo was the best drummer in the world.

"Is Russia the best army in the world?"

"Russia isn't even the best army in Russia!"

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u/Cosmic_Kettle 3d ago

Tbf the drummer for the Beatles before Ringo Starr was Randolph Peter Best

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u/NickeKass 4d ago

I doubt they are even the 4th best army in Ukraine.

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u/1202_ProgramAlarm 4d ago edited 3d ago

Let's see there's the Ukrainian army, randos with guns, the salvation army, then the Russian army. Yeah that's checks out.

E: ok ok so maybe they're closer to the eighth best

EE: ok ok like fiftieth?

EEE: surely then we can agree they're the premier circus act in the country, no?

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u/panaxe 4d ago

Don't forget the Farmy Army!

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u/pyroakuma 3d ago

Don't forget the armies at the ends of my sleevies.

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u/Anezay 3d ago

Don't forget BTS's Army!

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u/PurpleSubtlePlan 3d ago

Don't forget the private army that is better equipped and trained than Russia's army, and has no loyalty to Putin.

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u/Charles_Whethers 4d ago

Their motherland says they're cool.

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u/Zorops 3d ago

When they say motherland or mother russia is because all the men died.

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u/Tayo826 3d ago

The Russians have had to buy ammunition from North Korea.

Let that sink in for a moment.

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u/crazyjkass 3d ago

I assume the North Korean ammunition is old Soviet ammunition, so basically the same as what the Russians have.

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u/maxcorrice 4d ago

third

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u/ZetaRESP 4d ago

You mean the HIMARS wooden army is the second one, then?

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u/maxcorrice 4d ago

Farmers is second

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u/ZetaRESP 4d ago

Oh, right...

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u/heywood-jablomi99 4d ago

I always find it comical when any military outside the US is compared to the US.

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u/19475829 4d ago

And it's not even nationalism either. Listen, my country fucking sucks for a lot of reasons, but I will never have to worry about foreign military occupation in my lifetime. Being nuked, maybe, but there is literally no chance we will be successfully invaded, ever.

Biggest threat to Americans right now are other Americans.

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u/The_Ineffable_One 4d ago

We have not had actual war on our soil since 1865. Think about that. An attack in Hawaii, an attack in Virginia/New York? Some weird Japanese soldiers who couldn't do anything in Alaska? Sure. But actual meaningful enemy troops on our land? Not since the Civil War. We're screwups in a lot of ways, but damn, no one is invading this place.

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u/chev327fox 3d ago

We’re blessed with good geography as well which is another facet and have allies on both of our only two borders and the vast oceans as buffers on the other sides.

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u/GreyInkling 3d ago

Good geography and resources making us capable of being entirely self-sufficient if cut off, which isn't possible for most these days. People get spooked by china's growing economy but it's fragile and spread thin, too dependant on what they do for others to be able to sustain itself alone. We are their major source of soy and we barely use it ourselves. It's just excess we can easily grow and export.

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u/FleaBottoms 3d ago

China’s military leadership is even more corrupt than Russia’s. They need the vast majority of their military for internal control as does Russia.

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u/P-ssword_is_taco 3d ago

People forget sometimes that the global economy would fucking tank without us buying all of the stuff we do. Especially China. World war with us is essentially not good for the ROW and would be devastating to Chinas economy without us buying anything from them anymore. Plus as others have said, no country is invading us. Even for me, who has problems with our society would pickup a gun without hesitation if we were under threat of or being invaded. We have lots of guns, and defending is much different than invading.

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u/throwawayyy895 3d ago

I don’t disagree, but a lot of people fail to mention that the dollar is the worlds reserve currency and take that for granted

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u/aew360 4d ago

Which is the only way to beat America. From within. Guess which country has dedicated significant manpower to sowing division in America?

We either need to come to terms with our political counterparts and put differences aside or accept that the best days of America are behind us. It’s a shame but I’m hopeful for the future

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u/Stubbedtoe18 4d ago

It's difficult to be hopeful when you have national health issues politicized and people like MTG literally tweeting out that no Republicans should work together with Democrats to get anything done and to "remember who the true enemy is" (the Democratic party). It's absolutely insane. This is not warfare, but they pretend it is, and there's no better way to help the enemy than by sowing this division to explicitly hold back growth, progress, and most Americans.

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u/DuntadaMan 3d ago

Also hard to side with people that literally want you dead, and their reason for it is because you pass laws that make it illegal for them to strip away your rights.

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u/Zedress 4d ago

No greater mistake can be made than to think that our institutions are fixed or may not be changed for the worse. … Increasing prosperity tends to breed indifference and to corrupt moral soundness. Glaring inequalities in condition create discontent and strain the democratic relation. The vicious are the willing, and the ignorant are unconscious instruments of political artifice. Selfishness and demagoguery take advantage of liberty. The selfish hand constantly seeks to control government, and every increase of governmental power, even to meet just needs, furnishes opportunity for abuse and stimulates the effort to bend it to improper uses...

The peril of this Nation is not in any foreign foe! We, the people, are its power, its peril, and its hope!

Charles Evans Hughs, Conditions of Progress in Democratic Government (1909)

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u/Dick_Demon 4d ago

I get where you're going with this and I agree, but very very much of this has to do with the geography of the US and not (just) its military superpower.

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u/Redqueenhypo 4d ago

It’s like watching people argue who’s dog could successfully take on a polar bear. None of them. It’s a fucking polar bear.

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u/ragnarokfps 3d ago

Lol, Russia would struggle mightily against just the military that's posted in California.

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u/c4virus 4d ago

I remember a couple years back there was some silly meme a friend sent me of like a Russian military ad that was all like over-charged macho high testosterone rage type shit and it was comparing it to a US military ad that showcased diversity acceptance of LGBT troops or something. There was this massive concerted effort to make us look weak by valuing diversity.

Here we are, Russia's bullshit is on full display for the world to see. Their propaganda was just that. They got so good at pumping it out that they themselves believed it.

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u/Oberon_Swanson 3d ago

The US Military doesn't have to posture because it's actually powerful, Russia's entire military doctrine is posturing because they know they aren't actually powerful and need to overcompensate.

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u/c4virus 3d ago

Yeah 100%...

What's funny is I know people, who were in the US military, who semi-fell for it. Like they saw those stupid ads and were taken by them a little.

Putin does know how to propaganda really well, I'll give him that the psychopath.

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u/WestwardNorthWindow 3d ago

There were videos of "Russian boot camps" where the "drill sergeant" was drop kicking "recruits".

I put that all in quotes, because I'm pretty sure none of it was real and it was staged. But that doesn't stop people from sucking it up like last night's spaghetti.

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u/Broken-Digital-Clock 3d ago

Even if it is real, drop kicking recruits isn't going to be super helpful

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u/Knee3000 3d ago

They get their training ideas from those old hong kong movie montages

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u/Dr-Gooseman 3d ago

It actually prepares them for the ass kicking that they will eventually receive

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u/Secunda_Son 4d ago Gold Eureka! 'MURICA

I constantly get the impression that people really don't know much about world militaries. The United States is not simply the strongest military on the planet, it's in a completely different league than every other nation. The US is the only military on earth that can project force anywhere on earth for an indefinite amount of time. There's about 15 (counting China's prototype) aircraft carriers on the planet right now and the US owns 11 of them. The HIMAR systems that are helping Ukraine fuck up Russia were developed in the 90s. The US military considers them "dated" technology. Everything the US has sent to Ukraine has been "surplus" so far.

Don't get me wrong. All of this comes at the expense of things like Americans having basic fucking health care but to suggest that any military on earth comes within a mile of the US is complete ignorance. It's a joke.

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u/Karl2241 4d ago

Was in the Air Force not that long ago, some of the abilities our military possesses is absolutely terrifying if your going to be going up against them. And that power projection, that’s a weapon in and of itself. I remember the bombing campaign against Libya. B-2 bombers took off from Missouri loaded, flew all the way to Africa, bombed Libya, and flew back. They flew 3 days without landing. For reference see: https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/igphoto/2001688766/

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u/MeesterMeeseeks 4d ago

Just cause that sounds so crazy to me had to read it, they flew 30 hours. Still fucking nuts

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u/Karl2241 4d ago

I wonder if I got my wires crossed, 3 day trip might have been the Afghanistan invasion. So many missions and events from that time, things bleed together over time.

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u/Newni 4d ago

I mean depending on what time they took off, a 30 hour flight could stretch over 3 days.

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u/booze_clues 3d ago

My brigade was on leave for Christmas and landed in iraq in under 48 hours. Not many militaries have the ability to mobilize an entire brigade and land them in another country that fast, nevermind one that’s on leave. We have multiple with a company ready to leave in less than a day at all times.

I remember waking up to my friend texting me “hey, I think we’re going to iraq, love you guys.” On New Year’s Eve or day, around that time.

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u/Gigant0re 3d ago

Yup. I was with a combat engineer squadron. When we came, we brought and built a reinforced city.

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u/BlackberryOpen974 3d ago

They could have flown 22-24/ 0-24/ 0-02

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u/Ltownbanger 4d ago

Fun fact: The worlds largest air force is the United States Air Force. The worlds 2nd largest air force is the United States Navy.

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u/Lady_von_Stinkbeaver 4d ago

I believe the U.S. Marine Corps is fourth or fifth.

If you count helicopters, the U.S. Army would be top five (probably first) as well.

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u/Dansredditname 4d ago

Marines Corps is fifth, Army Aviation is fourth. Four of the top five Air Forces in the world belong to the United States of America.

https://www.wdmma.org/ranking.php

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u/EfficientWasteOfTime 3d ago

Not to mention the US Air Force is double the first foreign Air force (Russia) and Triple the second (India) it's just a different world. NATO really is just the US policing the world at this point

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u/Anne__Frank 3d ago

Also worth noting that it's not just numbers we have, our tech is in a league of its own as well.

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u/anothergaijin 3d ago

It’s more than just having the best hardware and weapons - although that alone is huge - there is also excellent training and education, a professional full time force vs short-term conscripts, equipment is well maintained and modern, and everything is backed up by incredible logistics.

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u/YoungNissan 4d ago

Actually the order goes 1. US Air Force 2. US Army Air Force 3. Russia 4. US Navy

Might as well be 3rd at this point too since those were last years numbers.

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u/Traditional-Ad3161 4d ago

Is the Army #3?

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u/VamanosGatos 4d ago

The Army Corps of Engineers has more watercraft than some Navies

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u/arkhound 4d ago

Some of the bayou cops in FL/LA probably have more watercraft than many navies.

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u/ShitTalkingAlt980 4d ago

Our Coast Guard could take on a shit ton of Navies. They aren't supposed to work that way but whatever.

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u/Admiralthrawnbar 4d ago

B-52s took of from Texas to bomb Iraq in the Gulf War, 30 years ago, then flew all the way back to Texas.

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u/Karl2241 4d ago

My grandfather told me of his missions flying b-52’s for sac and his time in Vietnam. My hats off to those guys.

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u/Sex_Fueled_Squirrel 3d ago

Fun fact: the US Air Force is planning on keeping B-52s in operation into the 2050s, so there will likely be guys 100 years younger than your grandfather flying the same planes as him.

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u/CooterMichael 3d ago

The maiden flight of the B-52 is closer in time to the Wright Brothers first flight than it is to current times.

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u/Renaissance_Slacker 3d ago

The airframes are solid, just keep updating the avionics and engines.

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u/saarlac 4d ago

How many times would they have refueled on that mission?

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u/Karl2241 4d ago

I’m not sure, I’d venture that there is an article out there that mentions it though.

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u/DR93-020- 4d ago edited 4d ago

According to google they have a range of 11.100km. Lybia and Missouri are roughly 10.000km apart so they had to refuel once statistically.

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u/Johnnybravo60025 4d ago

Not if they flew it in Eco mode. They really only needed Sport mode just before and after the bombing.

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u/malthar76 3d ago

Just keep it in 7th gear.

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u/Wrangleraddict 4d ago

I'm guessing when they have the full payload of munitions they're taking off with way less than a full tank. Probably refuel not long after takeoff then on the way back. My buddy flies the KC46 ill ask if he has any idea when I chat with him next.

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u/dismayhurta 4d ago

holy shit. That is some legit logistics (or whatever) on refuels, etc.

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u/milkcarton232 4d ago

Look up the Falklands bombing by the English, less sophisticated but much more complex for the refueling, they had to refuel the refuelers so they could refuel the bombers and then have other refuelers find them on the way back. It's not as impressive for the distance but the rest is just silly. Operation black buck

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u/Head-Ad4690 3d ago

That’s a great comparison too. The UK bombing the Falklands was a monumental undertaking, at the absolute limits of their capabilities with maximum pressure, to put a handful of aircraft over the islands.

For the USAF, such a mission would be just another Tuesday.

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u/Fytzer 3d ago

An anecdote: while preparing the Vulcan bombers for the mission they realised they didn't have enough fuel caps to fully outfit the aircraft. Several officers were discussing this problem while smoking after dinner one evening in the officers mess, and couldn't find a solution that would get the aircraft in the air on time. That was until one of them realised that the ornamental ash tray they were all ashing into was in fact a Vulcan bomber fuel cap, which was promptly brought into the machine shop and fitted to the bomber the next morning.

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u/Thatoneguy111700 3d ago

Because of this, the military has been a big proponent of green energy, nuclear power, etc. since having to rely on oil is a liability and national security issue and we only produce like. ..70% I think of what we need domestically. Of course, a lot of their ideas get bounced out by congress and lobbyists for more oil-stuff.

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u/MiataCory 4d ago Starry

You have no idea.

The US literally has billions of dollars of equipment pre-staged around the world, just in case some shit shoots off.

There are (in public knowledge) 5 of these pre-positioned stock locations around the world.

Each one has like 120 Abrams tanks, along with everything to support those tanks for a full year in combat, as a single example of the sort of things that they contain. 20 years ago, the US could put 50,000 troops anywhere on the globe within 72 hours, fully stocked and ready for war.

It's mind boggling how much the US really has invested in it's military, but as a result, it's also the most peaceful time in world history. Sure we have our wars, but no world wars, and even local disturbances aren't as genocide-level as they were back in like Roman-empire times.

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u/flameocalcifer 4d ago

I can guarantee you there are a LOT more tanks in kuwait sitting mothballed in a parking lot

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u/Malarky3113 4d ago

They train drone pilots near where I work. On the few times I've seen the drones, it's ominous, creepy, terrifying, IDK. I couldn't imagine being in a foreign nation, that every time you see a drone, people are dying around you.

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u/dkdestroyer5555 4d ago

If you're a target for a predator or reaper drone, you will likely never see it. It flies high up and far away enough to not be spotted or heard. If you watch videos of airstrikes, the targets won't react (at best) until immediately before the hellfire impacts, because that'll be the first time they hear anything

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u/ClubMeSoftly 3d ago

I've read that the younger people in some of the drone-bombed nations actually look forward to gloomy overcast weather, because it means the drones can't fly that day.

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u/drewster23 4d ago

Vietnam war

By the time the United States ended its Southeast Asian bombing campaigns, the total tonnage of ordnance dropped approximately tripled the totals for World War II. The Indochinese bombings amounted to 7,662,000 tons of explosives, compared to 2,150,000 tons in the world conflict.

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u/Tayo826 4d ago Wholesome Wearing is Caring I'll Drink to That To The Stars 'MURICA Yas Queen

US Army pronouns: They/Them

Russian Army pronouns: Was/Were

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u/HamOnRye__ 4d ago

This reminds of a silly little joke I heard

Isis, more like Waswas.

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u/doomrider7 4d ago

I know the poster was being queerphobic about it, but they/them actually makes them sound more scary and terrifying. Like you're fighting this concept of legion that isn't just huge and powerful, but near hivemind in knowledge and efficiency. That's some scary as fuck shit right there.

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u/YouDotty 3d ago

Yes, the poster obviously hasn't come across the Geth.

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u/argv_minus_one 3d ago

“We have formed a consensus to kick your ass.

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u/CedarWolf 3d ago

Also, the US military is a volunteer force, made up of many men, women, and everyone in between. So it would be a they/them.

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u/the_river_nihil 3d ago

“We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will become one with our own. Resistance is futile.”

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u/CoyoteBalls 4d ago

“…people don’t really know much about world militaries.”

This is exactly true. To take it a step further- these people know even less about geopolitics and recent world events to form a coherent opinion.

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u/CharlieBirdlaw 4d ago

Wait 'til we talk about what they know about science!

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u/Admiralthrawnbar 4d ago

We retired the world's first stealth aircraft before anyone else on the planet had even put one into service.

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u/Unlikely-Pizza2796 4d ago

The weapons platforms are the razzle dazzle, but don’t tell the whole tale. We have a logistics support structure that allows the U.S. Military to project force anywhere in the world and sustain it for follow on operations. That capability is peerless when discussing any other military. It’s almost like we can teleport anywhere in the world. It’s astonishing how fast and how well it can be done. Nobody else comes close to matching that capability.

Then there is the training & organizational structure. You can serve in the Army and not fully appreciate this until you work, side by side, with allied militaries. The level of individual training and initiative is remarkable. Every soldier is taught the ‘Commanders Intent’ for every operations order. So even if the plan gets pole axed on contact, you can regroup, shift on the fly, and still achieve the missions intent. Many armies only tell soldiers to do X. If they can’t do exactly that, then they can’t achieve the mission because nobody bothered to brief them on the desired outcome.

The NCO corps is another attribute that is often overlooked. Many armies lack any robust leadership in the middle. It’s soldiers and officers, with maybe a handful of NCO’s at best. This structure allows for much smaller unit sizes to be able to operate independently. Airborne soldiers are an excellent example. You have a slew of folks jump out of an airplane at night and regroup on the ground. Can’t find your guys? Got dropped in the wrong place? Folks get injured or equipment doesn’t survive the drop? No problem. You gather up everyone nearby and if you can’t make your rally point, you execute your mission with the minimum amount of people and equipment necessary to do it. The whole thing is chaos and the U.S. Military is 100% about that life.

*This is also why we don’t have nationalized healthcare, better schools, or decent social programs. We decided, long ago, to do this one thing really well- and that’s turning other peoples shit into rubble. We can’t rebuild it either, so don’t ask.

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u/Gabzalez 4d ago

Pallets man… those things win wars.

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u/MiataCory 4d ago

Like the Jerry Can did when it was stolen in WW2, or the Merchant Marine for the same reason. Logistics win wars.

https://www.hagerty.co.uk/articles/the-astonishing-story-of-the-jerrycan/

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u/Meidara 4d ago edited 4d ago

Cold Wars too, it still blows my mind just how massive and complex the Berlin Air Lift was. I mean 2,334,374 Tons of supplies flown in and dropped over 15 freaking months!?

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u/captchroni 3d ago

It's kinda like those WW1 stats where you know the numbers are reasonably accurate, but you cant really wrap your head around how it's possible.

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u/argv_minus_one 3d ago

When you absolutely, positively have to park a fuckton of tanks on somebody's doorstep, right now, accept no substitutes.

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u/lilaprilshowers 4d ago

Ughhhh, the US could totally have both a top notch military and a public healthcare system. The average American spends well over the OCED average for worse outcomes. US doesn't have healthcare because of politics, not for a lack of money. If fact, I'd say presenting the two as an ethier/or just makes healthcare even more politically difficult.

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u/nonprophet610 4d ago

Actual Universal Healthcare (TM) would be far, far cheaper, and provide a far, far better return for our dollar, than our current system - and it's not even close.

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u/wupdup 3d ago

A study estimated it to be 13% cheaper overall. We'd still have many high income people in the new system, unlike in other countries.

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u/DasFunke 3d ago

Wouldn’t it save something like 2.3 trillion over 10 years? Including all the additionally insured?

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u/wupdup 3d ago

The study estimated the savings to be $450 billion annually in 2017 dollars, or $4.5 trillion over 10 years. That's a 13% savings overall.

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u/cat_prophecy 3d ago

Cheaper for the end user, yes. But not cheaper for billionaire ruling classes. When people aren't forced to stay in shitty jobs, or in terrible conditions for fear of being bankrupted by a broken leg, suddenly employment is a lot less mandatory.

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u/Unlikely-Pizza2796 4d ago

You are correct. It’s not a binary choice, rather a reflection of our priorities.

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u/dicknipplesextreme 3d ago

The real issue is that working-class woes like unaffordable healthcare, housing, and higher education are major boons to military recruitment. If the U.S. just starts providing those things like a real first-world country, enlistment will plummet.

Not that the benefits you get to 'solve' those problems are necessarily any great. You'd be hard pressed to find a vet that doesn't have a VA horror story.

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u/Rustyflyntlock 3d ago

Except that those issues are on the rise and recruitment is down. It's a factor, but im not certain it's as large a factor anymore.

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u/dicknipplesextreme 3d ago

Those issues are also cause for a couple other things: lower birthrates and poor physical/mental health.

It's a serpent eating itself. The biggest drivers for military enlistment are also rapidly shrinking the recruitment pool.

There are other reasons of course- the pay is uncompetitive, the work is shit (both of which also cause retention to suffer), etc... and even with all that, the military has always managed to keep numbers up by simply providing a measure of financial and social security to individuals who have only ever known poverty and insecurity. But that can only carry so much.

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u/radicalelation 4d ago

I've always dreamed of a US military retooled to help build the world.

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u/link3945 3d ago

It does, in many cases. Our carrier groups will respond to natural disasters and render aid if they can. One example from 2013, after a storm hit the Phillipines..

We absolutely should use it for more things like this. It could.he an enormous force for good in the world.

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u/dismayhurta 4d ago

Watched a video on US logistics and how they can get gas anywhere (local reserves, etc.) and have massive organization around it (zones, processes, etc.).

It's fascinating.

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u/plotholesandpotholes 3d ago

Bulk fuel baby. Hollywood has yet to give logistics its due.

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u/brotherabbit442 4d ago

I have a friend who's a colonel in the US army. He loves logistics. When he was in command of a battalion of Paladins he took me to the motor pool to see them... and the command vehicles, and the ammo transports, the tow trucks, the rolling kitchens and freezers... holy hells. It was astounding how many vehicles and how much manpower it took to support 18 paladins. The logistics alone is mind-boggling. Supply lines win wars.

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u/timmystwin 4d ago

"Amateurs study tactics, professionals study logistics"

Which you can see in pretty much any war, but the war in Ukraine and Russia's earlier shambles really shows this. Troops can't do shit without ammo, no matter how well they're placed.

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u/DuvalHeart 4d ago

The US military literally keeps ships just floating at sea each with enough equipment to support a couple thousand marines for a month.

And the US has been training Ukrainian forces in all this stuff since 2014, which is part of why they're decimating Russian invaders.

Also this isn't why we don't have nationalized healthcare, better schools or decent social programs. We don't have those because wealthy people won't pay their fair share of taxes.

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u/Desultory_D 4d ago

I think it’s also notable that we have the worlds largest and strongest all volunteer military. We go to war and dudes from Texas LINE UP lol that’s got to add some extra spice when in battle.

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u/Jimmyking4ever 4d ago

Here I thought it was because of financial reasons

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u/MiataCory 4d ago

Debt makes for volunteers. Criminalization does too.

Mr. 18 year old, we caught you with a baggie of weed and a pack of sandwich bags in your cabinet, which makes it felony "intent to distribute". There are 2 ways we can go. Either I can sentence you to the felony, with 2 years in jail, and your rights revoked for life as a felon. Or you can volunteer for the army and I'll issue a stay in your case.

Literally happened to a friend of mine. It's common as hell.

Weed is legal in our state now, for reference.

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u/Beddybye 3d ago

I lived in Norfolk VA for a few years after college...at least a third of the Navy people I met were there in that exact position...military or prison. They literally used to laugh when people "thanked" them for their service...if they only knew they were there to escape jail time, not due to some "calling" or love of America. Lol

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u/Swooshz56 3d ago

I was in the navy and one of my bunk mates got hit with an indecent exposure charge for peeing on the wall outside a bar. Got told the same thing by a judge and spent 6 years in the Navy instead of having it on his record.

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u/dragon_bacon 4d ago

That's got to be a reason, I was a day away from joining the army because I couldn't find work anywhere.

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u/doodlelol 4d ago

Remember, the biggest airforce in the world is the us airforce. The second is the us navy

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u/jericho 4d ago

And the fourth is the us army.

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u/AgitatedBadger 4d ago

Who is the third?

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u/jericho 4d ago

Russia, with a force probably equivalent to one U.S. carrier.

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u/bassoontennis 4d ago

Yeah I try to explain that to people who get upset with how America’s military has been trying to be more inclusive with certain things. The biggest argument is that well you’ll just end up with an army of girly men. Lol yeah. Funny enough the ability to use our advanced weaponry isn’t based on how masculine you are. Actually the weaponry doesn’t care at all haha. Currently our defense budget 801 billion dollars. The next 9 countries combined their armies spend 777 billion even combined they don’t spend as much as us. I’ve never feared being attacked/invaded in my own country by outside forces. I actually only fear our own home grown ass white domestic terrorists. (I am aware they can be not white as well, but as a white guy I’ve seen waaaaaay more crazy white guys than any other skin color).

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u/VVarlord 4d ago

Exactly, arm chair pundits watching too much Rambo think it's muscles that win wars

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u/MiataCory 4d ago Gold

The biggest argument is that well you’ll just end up with an army of girly men

"Well, why does it matter that the drone pilot has 10,000 hours in Microsoft Flight Simulator and a My Little Pony figurine next to the 'Fire' button on his console? Seems like the bomb he drops on your head explodes the same."

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u/theevilphoturis 4d ago

And there are literally hundreds of US oversea military bases out there in the entire world. It's really hard for any rising power to challenge that. If any country wants to fuck with the US militarily, it's almost impossible. That's why American enemies prefer psyops instead and it's working as I'm writing.

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u/nightfury626 4d ago

I had to explain this to some coworkers when I was in the Air Force active duty. It blew my mind that a couple of them thought Russia could defeat the US in military. I’m sure plenty of active duty still think like that. Our Air Force song motto literally says “Nothing can stop the US Air Force”.

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u/ccoopersc 4d ago

The United States Navy guarantors world trade. We protect every major shipping lane, the reason thousands of container ships can move billions in goods every day is because our ships can rest outside of any nation's territorial waters for months and monitor anything that floats, anywhere in the world. This in combination with private security firms has effectively killed piracy, a problem so severe and pervasive that dealing with it created many of the foundations of international law.

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u/SL1200mkII 4d ago

The US has nearly half of the entire world's military capability.

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u/Drnk_watcher 4d ago edited 3d ago

Dweebs on the internet think war is still fought by strong men, with big muscles and guns. Then going out physically out matching each other.

It is ALWAYS just a bunch of guys standing in a line looking tough on Twitter.

Meanwhile most of the US military is so technologically advanced that they don't even need to see the target to hit it.

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u/PerfectWoodpecker213 4d ago

America doesn't have enough farmers to tow all the Russian tanks.

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u/dessimus 4d ago

IDK, have you seen the Amish move a house?

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u/Aliencj 4d ago

I've heard a story of them demolishing a barn.

Imagine a a man standing on the top beam with a chainsaw, chopping rafters as he goes. Building swaying. Accident waiting to happen. Somehow it doesnt happen.

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u/thephogisreal 4d ago

Do the Amish use gas or electric machinery?

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u/Sparriw1 4d ago

The Amish and their stance on gas and electric machinery vary from church to church. Some (very few) use absolutely no gasoline or electric motors. Some can use them for very limited purposes, others keep them in the barn but can't have them in the house. There are quite a few churches that won't allow owning them, in which case an outsider gets paid to "own" what the community buys, and provide the tools when necessary.

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u/FisterRodgers 4d ago

I've seen that everything varies from sect to sect and even family to family.

But if you want to stay competitive in a capitalist society, you need the tech to keep your consumers connected to your business. So families will get "modern conveniences" and use the business as a scapegoat. They'll only have the phone or computer, before the rise of smartphones, in the business which would usually be a separate building so they technically don't have this stuff in their homes.

The families I've encountered in Lancaster seem fine with a good go-around; if a family member leaves the faith they can't sit at the same table to eat. So they get a separate little table to seat the shunned and put 1 big tablecloth over both.

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u/Sparriw1 4d ago

The Missouri communities I've dealt with are a lot less likely to accept the shunned in any manner, but the other rules lawyering is spot-on. A lot of the communities will only pay lip service to the rules wherever possible.

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u/Vibe_with_Kira 4d ago

Imagine soldiers invading and the Amish just show up, disable all of your equipment, and run ff. Like, you're in a tank and then boom, it's gone

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u/Karl2241 4d ago

You don’t need tractors to tow tanks when you use a TOW to destroy the tank 😉

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u/MihalysRevenge 4d ago edited 4d ago

338 days of your 10 day war. Fun fact the Russian military has ZERO realistic training events like Red Flag or NTC, and the US has been running multiple ones since the early 80s.

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u/MandolinMagi 3d ago

We also run an entire separate training op to teach people how to train insurgents, the Robin Sage exercise in the Republic of Pineland (actually southeast North Carolina)

Oh and the OG OPFOR unit, the country of Aggressor and its ruling party the Circle Trigonists, who speak Esperanto.

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u/MihalysRevenge 3d ago

Yep Robin Sage is an awesome experience, also JRTC( Joint Readiness Training Center ) in Fort Polk and JRMC ( Joint Multinational Readiness Center ) Hohenfels Germany

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u/Spider1132 4d ago

Nothing has aged here. It's just as dumb as it was when posted.

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u/whosthedoginthisscen 3d ago

Thank you. This aged like already spoiled milk.

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u/tdawoe143 4d ago

This woman is little loose up there. She is pro-CCP and pro-Dictatorship. I can't believe this kind of people still roams the streets. Belongs to mental hospital

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u/That_one_Gguy 4d ago

They're anti-Biden. Biden could come out saying people shouldn't jump off of bridges and conservatives would post videos of themselves jumping off 1 foot tall bridges and calling him an old idiot.

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u/Gryphacus 4d ago

I mean, Microsoft gave them the freedom to choose how much power their X-box uses, and they've gone full meltdown, boycott style. All that matters to them is the performance of power and control.

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u/That_one_Gguy 4d ago edited 3d ago

That's wild

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u/whosthedoginthisscen 3d ago

Yeah, FOX News is already crying in outrage about how "woke" XBox is, claiming that the energy saving standby mode is "indoctrinating children at an early age into climate politics". I feel like every day the editor of The Onion wakes up feeling absolutely suicidally worthless, and the writer of Idiocracy has a permanent welt on his forehead from constantly slapping himself saying "why didn't I think of that?"

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u/That_one_Gguy 3d ago

Ugh... These people make me want to head on down to the rope store.

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u/Knee3000 3d ago

My first thought is that it might lower the energy bill by a dollar or two. There’s literally no downsides to an energy saving mode lol

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u/then00bgm 4d ago

She’s also pro-Andrew Tate

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u/Kidog1_9 3d ago

Also anti-semite and anti-india

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u/Schwa142 3d ago

She's an American who's openly pro Kadyrov. She's also former Miss NJ and a former correspondent for Russia's RT TV .

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u/honda_slaps 3d ago

most embarassing thing we've ever shit out and there are multiple seasons of Jersey Shore

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u/OfficerMcNasty7179 4d ago

There's still this myth that masculinity, size, strength, or even determination of the individual soldiers I'd what wins wars

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u/solarus44 3d ago

I mean determination yeah, as that ties into morale. If you've got soldiers, sailors and airmen that don't want to fight it'll show

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u/Grzechoooo 4d ago

This "they/them army" bit reminds me of how Russian propaganda created a fake TVP1 video about Poland annexing Ukraine and then saaid Poland was preparing a special gay division. Hilarious.

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u/heyimpaulnawhtoi 3d ago

Where are the promised polish femboys???Russia pls tell me i need to know

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u/AnthillOmbudsman 4d ago

Always interesting to see the Twitter influencers who are on the Kremlin payroll.

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u/dagnariuss 4d ago

All because they saw that one army commercial Russia put out. These people probably believe there’s an actual agenda to not give rabbits trix cereal.

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u/grimmyzootron 4d ago

It’s funny that people compete russia to the US, when NATO would absolutely steam roll russia

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u/ChemistryScrooge 4d ago

The US would steam roll Russia itself. People don’t realise the us is more than decades ahead of the rest of the world in military tech.

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u/delocx 4d ago

All the hullabaloo about Russia's hypersonic weapons was hilarious, truly the "bomber gap" of our times.

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u/Mission_Progress_674 4d ago

My first thought about Russian hypersonic missiles was "Wow, you finally caught up".

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u/sleepwalker77 3d ago

The usual pattern is that Russia develops some overhyped wunderwaffe that doesn't actually work like the Mig 25, and then America shits it's pants and develops an actual world-beater like the F15 to counter it. This leaving Russia further behind than when it started

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u/johntwoods 4d ago

'Celebrities' it says.

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u/Modred_the_Mystic 4d ago

They/them army > Was/were army

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u/CarniverousApple 4d ago

Your gender doesn’t matter when you’re looking down the barrel of an AR

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u/According-Crew-9302 4d ago

Strong masculine army when they/them soldiers pull out the gundams from area51

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u/buttsoupsteve 4d ago

That was a stunningly stupid tweet, for numerous reasons.

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u/Knee3000 3d ago

The entire US military could be wearing pink playboy bunny suits and our weapons will still do what weapons do. Our expertise will still be the best in the world. These smaller militaries focus too much on the aesthetics of strength.

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u/SuperTrooper804 3d ago edited 3d ago

I love how republicans love Russia now, but 10 years ago they were the devil incarnate. Funny how you have to pull god tier mental gymnastics just to keep words spewing out of your mouth because you love to hear yourself talk and you think youre gods gift to the earth. Good luck with raising your family. Let’s see how long the kids like having you around lmao

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u/pizza_for_nunchucks 4d ago

Here's where I'm getting hung up on this. Does this person think there was a high turn-over rate in the Army as soon as Biden was elected? I'd go out on a limb and say they thought the military was strong under Trump. Do they honestly believe that a significant amount of the military are not the same people that were serving under Trump?

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u/Jukebox_Villain 4d ago

Does this person think

You can stop right there, and assume "probably not."

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u/Vresa 3d ago

The goal is not to make a succinct point. It’s to confirm tribal lines and entrench the “Us Vs. Them” as early as possible while gaining more followers in the process.

If you spend even an extra few moments thinking about a tweet, you are not the target audience

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u/pesokakula 4d ago

Russian army changing their pronouns to was/were

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u/Zywhnzi 4d ago

The US could weaponize Russia's fear of pronouns if half the US wasn't holding us back with it's own fear of pronouns.

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u/ShawshankException 3d ago

Man these people are more obsessed with they/them pronouns than the people who actually use them

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u/U_need_2_try 3d ago

US army might be they/them but their bullets fly straight

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u/TheSanityInspector 4d ago

"Russia is never as strong as it looks. Russia is never as weak as it looks." ~de Tallyrand or Metternich, sources differ.

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u/kerfuffle_dood 3d ago

Nah, Russia is strong. In fact, Russia's army is the second strongest army in Ukraine! Second!

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