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u/Spirited-Classic8284 Sep 26 '22

Wow that's gotta make you swallow the lump in your throat!

High possibly they're all walking towards their deaths.

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u/mysteriousblue87 Sep 27 '22

That... was a tough watch. Fucking ask your mom, girlfriend, sister for tampons and pads for the bullet wounds. We don't have supplies.

Putin is the worst human alive.

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u/lickingthelips Sep 27 '22

Meanwhile, he’s in hiding, threatening The world with a Nuclear war.

Someone must throw him down the stairs.

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u/phunkydroid Sep 27 '22

If he doesn't go out a window there's no justice in this world.

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u/Hallivar Sep 27 '22

You still think there is justice in the world? I want what your smoking.

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u/shaze Sep 27 '22 Silver Helpful

He smoking hope, not dope!

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u/anewstheart Sep 27 '22

Hopium

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u/Palehorse0000 Sep 27 '22

Blowing Hopecaine into his butthole.

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u/SKPY123 Sep 27 '22

Straight in the hope hole!

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u/Henrys_Bro Sep 27 '22

NU-UH! HE IS ON THE FRONT LINES RIDING A BEAR INTO COMBAT WHILE SHIRTLESS!! /s

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u/Ensiferal Sep 27 '22

He's in hiding in his private forest palace ffs (attended by year round staff, even when he isn't there, and equipped with everything from a sauna to a movie theater). God I hope he ends up like Mussolini

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u/apples_oranges_ Sep 27 '22

He's in the top 5, that's for sure.

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u/Antique-Car6103 Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

We will provide you with slingshots and a bag of beans for amo.

Also, a sock and a brink in case you encounter a bear, so you can fuck him up.

Oh yeah, we just ran out of diarrhea pills. Sergey ate the last one. Tell your mom or girlfriend to send you some Pepto.

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u/Frishdawgzz Sep 27 '22

Every Russian soldier is pissing out of their asses rn apparently. No wonder they keep ceding territory.

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u/minuteman_d Sep 27 '22

Dude. At that point, you look around you and combine with the 10 other guys and demobilize yourself.

Homegirl at the front gets a chance to take a smoke break and then swear that she didn't have anyone show up for her shift, or she ends up in the ditch, pushing up daisies.

If it wasn't obvious before, it should be painfully so to these men: they are being sent to die.

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u/Frishdawgzz Sep 27 '22

Might be easier/safer to disappear after being deployed and surrender to the "enemy".

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u/IguaneRouge Sep 27 '22

From what I heard if they get sent back (perhaps as a prisoner swap) they'll get 10 years for desertion in Russia. It's likely less risky to just frag your CO and disappear.

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u/Saikotsu Sep 27 '22 Wholesome

Even if they were well equipped that's a distinct possibility. War is merciless. It's truly terrible. Those men are being sent to fight and die for an old man clinging to his ego and to his glory days. They're going to war over his god damn ego. Each one of those men has a name. They have hopes and dreams. Maybe even families. They have lives that are being upended. I stand with the Ukrainian people, but I also stand with the Russian people suffering from their leaders ego. This war needs to end. It shouldn't have started in the first place.

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u/Stormtrooper775s Sep 27 '22

We give rifle. No ammo. Pull ammo off dead comrades when get to Ukraine.

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u/Keeper151 Sep 27 '22

"... where do I get ammo if nobody in the unit is being issued ammo?"

"The regiment sent in before you was issued the ammo. They will not require it by the time you arrive."

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u/Osceana Sep 27 '22

Not sure where that quote is from but this is more or less what she’s saying in the video (which I get is why you made the comment) - what I don’t get is why you’d even bother at all if that’s the case. You’re basically admitting you’re going to lose and will continue to have less and less fighters. Like you already know it’s a lost cause. Just give up!

I don’t understand the point of this war now, like even from Putin’s side. If they’ve got some secret weapon or strategy that’s suddenly going to turn the tide of the war, why has it taken this long for you to use it? By all measures you’re not winning and short of using nukes (which would be the most Phyrric victory of all time) you’re not going to win. What is he even gaining out of all of this?

There are a lot of things I don’t agree with but I understand. I get the appeal of starting this war. It seemed easy. It worked with Crimea. Let’s do it again. Owning Ukraine’s territory would be exceedingly advantageous for Russia. Again, don’t agree with it, I fucking hate it, but it makes sense. Nothing about this war makes sense now. If you’re forcing people to join your ranks and telling them to beg for tampons you fucking lost. Pack it up.

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u/Ricky_Rollin Sep 27 '22

Some people legitimately have bad brains.

This is going to be an interesting few years.

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u/UnstableNuclearCake Sep 27 '22

I feel bad for the history students on the next decade.

"And now, we're going to have a look at the 2020's, modern society's most stupid and confusing period."

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u/CoiledSpringTension Sep 27 '22

I admire your optimism that things are going to improve in the future!

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u/MOOShoooooo Sep 27 '22 To The Stars

We do not issue optimism, you must bring your own. Ask family members to send optimism.

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u/darrellbear Sep 27 '22

The Ukrainians haven't forgotten the Holodomor, the forced famine by the Soviets that killed millions.

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u/Frishdawgzz Sep 27 '22

“If only one man dies of hunger, that is a tragedy. If millions die, that’s only statistics.”

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u/IHeartBadCode Sep 27 '22

Strongman personality. There cannot be a lose until the people of Russia stop him. This is why "bigger than life" politicians are always a bad idea. There's no road they won't go down. There's no bottom to the barrel. There's no path they won't drag their country to follow.

When you have created your entire political career on an outsized personality of ever increasing strength, there comes a point where that just cannot be sustained any longer sensibly.

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u/fakkov Sep 27 '22

It’s a shift of strategy to turn this into a war of attrition. While Russia may be severely under equipped, one thing they do have in abundance is bodies. Throw waves and waves of bodies at your enemy in an attempt to wear them down. A strategy in a time and city far far away that once worked.

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u/TheBlissFox Sep 27 '22

The kill bots have a set limit so I sent wave after wave of my own men until they simply shut down.

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u/oxP3ZINATORxo Sep 27 '22

This and flooding the enemy with bodies has been the Russian MO for a long time. They did it for sure in WW1 and WW2. They'd grab everyone up but not have enough weapons for everyone, so they'd tell them just grab weapons off the dead when you get there, and send them on their way. You were very high up and well connected, or VERY lucky if you were issued a weapon

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u/thetaFAANG Sep 27 '22

Use tampon as ammo

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u/caaper Sep 27 '22

That echoes some of the darkest days of WWII

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u/zevz Sep 27 '22

I remember that Enemy at the Gates movie scene where only one third of them had rifles at all, and they were told to pick them up as your comrades fell.

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u/ScratchinWarlok Sep 27 '22

Which is not at all how stalingrad went down. Like I love that movie for a lot of reasons but a history lesson it is not.

https://youtu.be/CIcmMVb0SIs

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u/Tru-Queer Sep 27 '22

My AP European History teacher played the movie for us, not exactly realizing there was gonna be a graphic sex scene and when they started fucking he jumped up in front of the screen and tried to fast forward through it, lol

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u/Yourbuttmyface Sep 27 '22

He didn't watch it beforehand? That's just asking for it

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u/Veda007 Sep 27 '22

I didn’t remember Tom Cruise on top of Kelly McGillis at the beach house until I watched Top Gun again with my 10 year old.

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u/Yourbuttmyface Sep 27 '22

Ohhhh they're just wrestling

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u/CSpiffy148 Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

None of the adults remembered that Jerry Macguire opens with Tom Cruise and Kelly Preston fucking up against a wall while she screams, "Never stop fucking me!" That was a weird Christmas Eve.

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u/torturedexistence029 Sep 27 '22

Next month: We give NO rifle. NO ammo. Pull rifle and ammo off dead comrades when get to Ukraine

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u/Hoangdai151 Sep 26 '22

Holy shit this pure insanity. They have no supplies and are going to WAR. How have they not revolted yet. No one deserves to be sent to a cruel death like this for an absolutely unjust cause. Despicable

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u/stdoubtloud Sep 26 '22 Take My Energy Crab Rave

If they send all the angry young men to be killed in a war, there will be no one left to fight a revolution.

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u/Hoangdai151 Sep 26 '22

Damn it’s tragic how true that is. Also everyone fleeing won’t fight back either. Honestly don’t know how this even ends, just death everywhere until Putin’s own

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u/akahaus Sep 27 '22

Trust me, there’s just another asshole ready to fill Putin’s power vacuum.

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u/ShelZuuz Sep 27 '22

Sure, but keep in mind that Putin was the richest person on earth already and got bored of it. So Putin wants to be the Genghis Khan for the Russian Empire as his legacy.

The next person won't have this history.

They can either fight a losing battle against a country they don't really care about and likely get killed themselves. Or they can be a hero to the world, and make billions themselves.

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u/pomoville Sep 27 '22

He's probably got fucking cancer and wants to go out swinging

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u/Shitty_Google_Bot Sep 27 '22

Its his make-a-wish

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u/cesium-sandwich Sep 27 '22

I think so. I think during the pandemic he just sat around and read russian history and now wants to make his mark.
Total lack of self awareness in that he's already made his mark. History will remember him as the poisoner president who rigged elections and sold off the country for personal gain, and ultimately probably self genocided a sizable chunk of the russian population.

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u/gregorovich11 Sep 27 '22

Well, there might be, but he is hiding like the extended warranty people are after him. The whole world is calling, this fucker won't answer

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u/Puzzled_Pay_6603 Sep 27 '22

I must say….she seems like a keeper.

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u/EscapeV Sep 27 '22

How do you know? We haven’t seen her dribbling skills- she may be a striker or winger

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u/Puzzled_Pay_6603 Sep 27 '22

Oh come on dad! Stop embarrassing me all the time.

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u/nicetrywaltons Sep 27 '22

Slow should have started long ago, at this point we need quick, cruel and painful

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u/Bobfrosts Sep 27 '22

I wish some asshole would fill my power vacuum. It's been years

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u/akahaus Sep 27 '22

I should call them….

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u/guerrillaphunk Sep 27 '22

Plenty of women contributed to partisan operations. In the Italian resistance, nearly half of all guerilla fighters were women

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u/Falloutchief101 Sep 27 '22

Tell that to the people of the Bolshevik revolution and to those that fought in the Russian Civil war. Russians lost so many in WWI and still had a 5 year civil war with no supplies and starving peoples. Not saying another revolution will happen in Russia, but there's always a chance, especially where people are suffering.

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u/grokmachine Sep 27 '22

It wouldn't be the first time Russia under-equipped an army of angry young men, and instead of fighting in the war they started a revolution.

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u/aimeegaberseck Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Sounds like a best case scenario to hope for these poor guys getting forced to war, they should either surrender as soon as they get to Ukraine or take the guns and training and revolt.

Edit to add: yeah so I wasn’t thinking, this isn’t training and they don’t get guns. This is so fucked!

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Sep 27 '22

Zelensky has offered a period of captivity for anyone mobilized who surrenders and promises they need not ever return to Russia.

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u/aimeegaberseck Sep 27 '22

Yeah. He’s cool. I hope they ALL take advantage of it. Or revolt in Russia.

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u/Apprehensive-Cut-786 Sep 27 '22

That’s good and all but the problem is these soldiers have families back home. They can’t just leave their wives and children for good.

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Sep 27 '22

Sadly people the world over do it daily. The idea is they will eventually follow. Better to be separated than dead, sometimes it takes years to reunite. Better than death though.

The real hiccup in Russia is once you're safe you can't send money back without advertising you surrendered of your own volition. Your family is on their own until they can join you.

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u/defaultgameer1 Sep 27 '22

It is the revolutionary season for Russia.

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u/rzwitserloot Sep 26 '22

The more traditional way to do it when your country has more than enough natural resources that fleecing the value from those is all you need, the populace is of no consequence, is to just starve them to death. Ya know, half of africa, venezuela, that sort of thing.

Which is horrible. Fucking horrible.

Leave it to Putin to come up with something even shittier.

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u/KevonFire1 Sep 27 '22

And winter is coming...

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u/2ndtryagain Sep 27 '22

I just bought a winter coat that will go to a Ukrainian solidier, these guys are not going to have a bunch Westerners buying winter gear for them let alone tampons.

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u/Juan_Beegrat Sep 26 '22

How have they not revolted yet

Revolting can also lead to a cruel death. Revolution is easy to conceptualize but much more difficult to bring about and harder still to survive and win. Most revolts fail and end in death and imprisonment for those who support them. Even when they succeed, the idealism that initially fuels them is often swiftly forgotten.

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u/GlitteringBusiness22 Sep 27 '22

Yeah if you think a Russian revolution has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention so far.

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u/Noisebug Sep 27 '22

It is. I do admire her no-bullshit facts approach. While the Russians have no business doing what they are doing, she is clearly concerned and trying to save them from a really bad situation.

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u/who717 Sep 27 '22

I remember hearing that R. Lee Ermey, would read obituaries of the Marines he trained for Vietnam, and how he would feel like he had failed them since his training didn’t bring them back home. She is probably feeling the same way and is basically saying, “y’all are fucked, but I will do my best to make sure you survive”

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u/Third_Ferguson Sep 27 '22

She feels responsible for these boys…

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u/Arcadius274 Sep 27 '22

They have no supplies to revolt with

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u/BoxofCurveballs Sep 27 '22

Having no supplies and going into war is the history of Russia. They'll do it because that's what they've done for centuries.

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u/Ferryman260 Sep 27 '22

I heard there were mass riots when the draft was announced. There was even a fire in the Kremlin, a pro war publisher was burned down, and officers enforcing the draft are getting gunned down. The Russian government is cracking down on these people and the information that gets out about what’s happening. Putin and his cronies suck.

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u/ILikeFluffyThings Sep 27 '22

Can't revolt if you have no weapon.

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u/Slow-Ship1055 Sep 26 '22

If I was one of them, I would surrender at the first opportunity. This is horrible. It's totally nuts.

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u/Powerful_Village2508 Sep 27 '22

I’m pretty sure it’s the plan of most of them to just coast as far as they can and then sidle off when there’s a good opportunity. I mean, the hell are they supposed to do without even proper equipment? Even this woman knows the whole thing is stupid.

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u/Junkingfool Sep 27 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Question is, what will happen to their families back in Russia?

During my time in Iraq, i met several high ranking Iraqi officers. Well educated to say the least.

Many were sent to France for education and training. They were told if they defected, their families would all be killed.

Simple tactic but it works.

Russia is sending men in their 40/50s for a reason. Go and fight or your children will be killed.

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u/Regular-Grapefruit83 Sep 27 '22

Velenskyy has said any defectors will be reported as POWs

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u/mrkltpzyxm Sep 27 '22

Oh God I hope that doesn't have the opposite effect. If Russia decides that all POWs are to be treated as defectors that would just mean more and more and more death.

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u/CaptainCobber Sep 27 '22

Exactly what Stalin did. A lot of Soviet pows got 10 year stints in the gulag as defectors.

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u/zperic1 Sep 27 '22

Being imprisoned has been declared a criminal offence a few days ago I think

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u/yunivor Sep 27 '22

Stalin would be proud

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

They will be treated as defectors, this is another classic thing for Russia. After World War II, they tried prisoners as traitors to the homeland.

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u/Apocalypseos Sep 27 '22

That means 300k families dead. If this did happen most people would stop supporting Putin, even the oligarchs

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u/supremeshirt1 Sep 27 '22

What Oligarchs are left supporting him? A bunch of them fell out of windows, some commuter suicided or died in totally normal circumstances. Certainly none of them is voicing their opinions against him, but I can’t imagine that they’re super thrilled to lose all their foreign stuff and their wealth being at risk.

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u/TortugaAmigo Sep 27 '22

Just saw a post about the new conscripts are leading and they have infantry behind them. They will kill them if they run. They are sandwiched between Ukraine and more deadly Ruzzians behind them that will do far worse if they have to.

They can't run, they can't hide, they can't call the number to surrender. They wait for their death.

Sad. As. Fuck.

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u/Slow-Ship1055 Sep 27 '22

That is so messed up. What is wrong with Putin and his cronies? What's wrong with Russia? Willing to sacrifice millions of lives (if they could) to achieve a possible victory (but they won't). That won't work like it did in WW2. Russia is so messed up in their thinking, messed up in so many ways.

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u/fliegende_Scheisse Sep 27 '22

They're also using this war to ethnic cleanse their 'stans and get rid of the poor villagers in the sticks. These are the guys fighting.

If Moscow or St. Petersburg had the same level of call ups, a real revolt will start.

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u/SheenTStars Sep 27 '22

So basically meat shields. Fuck.

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u/NarcolepticKnifeFite Sep 27 '22

Putin just signed a law that gets you 10 years if you do.

I’m getting the fuck out of that country as soon as possible if I’m Russian.

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u/Monster_Factory Sep 27 '22 edited 27d ago Silver

I'm on the edge of my seat. When will you find out if you are Russian or not?

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u/NarcolepticKnifeFite Sep 27 '22

Results are in…….

Im not Russian.

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u/RichardMayo Sep 27 '22

That was a close one! Lucky.

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u/Riklanim Sep 27 '22

Props to you guys, despite this depressing thread you all made me smile.

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u/LaPlataPig Sep 27 '22

I am honestly starting to believe that Russia is hoping to inundate Ukraine with POWs to compromise logistics and man power.

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u/GoFuckYallselves Sep 27 '22

Honestly a brilliant tactic. Either you run out of resources being the good guys, or you become the monsters they need you to be in order to justify continuing the war effort. This is even more viable knowing Russia has the advantage in a war of attrition. Damn dude..

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u/Keeper151 Sep 27 '22

Iirc quite a few are being sent to Poland.

The Polish people have a long history of... issues... with Russian administration. They will gladly take any chance or excuse to stick one to Putin. Particularly if they appear magnanimous in doing so.

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u/Equivalent-Piano-420 Sep 27 '22

I think it's 10 years in prison or something. Better than being dead, but who knows what will ultimately happen to you there

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u/ILikeFluffyThings Sep 27 '22

Right... as if they will drag their ass back home to prison.

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u/ochamp36 Sep 27 '22

Ukraine has already offered to lie about how they got "captured" so that they avoid prison for surrendering or not return them in prisoners exchange if they don't wish to go back.

Great deal if you ask me.

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u/jibaro1953 Sep 27 '22

My father was on a freighter in the South Pacific in WWII. There was much speculation about what their first load of war materiel would be to deliver to the front.

Turned out to be 90% Tampax tampons.

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u/thisisghostman Sep 26 '22

Shows you how much he's lost the plot, what the fuck is the point of this but to send bodies in to the meat grinder.

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u/Kidrellik Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

To plug in holes due to the massive man power advantage Ukraine has. They sent in 200k soldiers with another 30k LPR and DPR allies. They've lost about 100k to causalities. Ukraine has mobilized every man they possibly could so their army now has 400-600k soldiers and usually that wouldnt matter vecause a country like Ukraine wouldn't be able to sustain that many active soldiers but it's all funded by the West. It's also about to be the rainy season and then winter so they'll have time to train and equip most of them before sending them to the front.

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u/rzwitserloot Sep 27 '22

Not to mention simple logistics.

Ukraine can move troops faster along the huge front (from Kherson to Belgorod) than Russia can - much faster.

  • Terrain: Kherson is on the wrong side and takes a ton of effort to defend. Had they given up Kherson and used the Dnipro as a natural boundary it'd have been muuuch simpler to defend that part of the front. But surely internally Putin has to keep up appearances that it's still all going according to plan, and 'take Odessa, take the entire Ukraine Black Sea coast, then annex Transnistria' sure sounds good if you don't think about it too hard. To make that believable, Kherson can't just be given up.

  • Resistance on the ground: Ukraine can move whatever equipment it wants and pretty much be guaranteed that the populace will, if anything, help out. Whereas Russia's occupying forces are fighting a ton of resistance and need to defend most movements, which slows you down a ton, it's also unfamiliar terrain. As Ukraine's chances of total victory (vs. giving up (parts of) the Donbass and towns near the Krim such as Melitopol and Kherson) increase, so does resistance in these towns.

  • Equipment: Ukraine has more modern equipment at this point that is designed to be used in a doctrine that is more conducive to huge front lines (given that NATO likes to have flexible teams and deploy very quickly, whereas Russia likes to lumber over a giant opposing force over a much longer period of time, and then have each battlegroup rigidly stick to the plan). Russia can get their stuff to the border fairly easily, but Ukraine is large.

  • Intelligence: It get the feeling Ukraine is getting fed a lot of intel from the west, and the west's put a lot of effort into battlefield intel gathering. They have more and better sattelite, drone, and awacs-style surveillance available.

  • Doctrine: This is tricky, as Ukraine grew up on Russian doctrine, but presumably is leaning more towards the NATO style of war which inherently involves more and faster movement as a basic tool in the toolbox than the russian style.

  • Speed-of-advancement: During stalemates when Russia masses troops and blitzes a small chunk of the frontline, so far they win, eventually, and gain a few miles a day, which then takes ages to fortify and control. So far Ukraine can do the same thing and do it 100x faster. Presumably because of morale (once its clear Ukraine will eventually win, the Russians just run, because why stay? Ukrainians stay and fight, because it's their land, and they are better trained and motivated). It's also much easier, so far at least (as they get deeper into Donbass or assault the Krim I do worry about this table being turned on them), to take control. The populace of the towns near the front by and large prefers ukraine control over russian.

All of which is adding up to a simple fact: Russia needs way more troops than Ukraine right now. They don't have them. Of course, adding a whole bunch of untrained, unmotivated, under equipped cannon fodder, that probably isn't actually gonna get the job done.

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u/Bamboozle_ Sep 27 '22

Doctrine: This is tricky, as Ukraine grew up on Russian doctrine, but presumably is leaning more towards the NATO style of war which inherently involves more and faster movement as a basic tool in the toolbox than the russian style.

An interesting read from a retired US Army Genreal. Ukraine was involved in several training programs with the US and other European nations as a part of their involvement in Afghanistan. Then:

In December 2015, U.S. Army Europe formally established Joint Multinational Training Group – Ukraine (JMTG-U), where a multi-national team of Americans, Poles, Canadians, Lithuanians, and Brits began training Ukrainian battalions as combined arms teams. Command Sergeant Major Davenport sent me a note a few years ago saying Ukraine had formally established an NCO corps, with standardized training and leadership requirements.

What's bonkers to me is that apparently the former Soviet countries didn't have NCOs. Russia it appears still doesn't.

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u/Cranky-Bunny Sep 27 '22

The Russians don't have NCOs because they are considered "politically unreliable".

China also doesn't have them but wants to create an NCO core. I'm curious to know how China is going to solve the political stability problem. Turning a bunch of average Joe's into the backbone of your military and teaching them to think and act independently just doesn't seem like a good idea for any authoritarian regime.

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u/NowheyYahweh Sep 27 '22

You nailed it. I don't think any dictatorship or authoritarian regime could possibly operate in a modern theater of war. When I was in the military the #1 thing we always tried to do as NCOS was make our subordinates know and understand their job, and the next level up. If I died, someone could take my place.

That level of operational knowledge is dangerous unless you have some sort of meritocracy.

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u/rzwitserloot Sep 27 '22

Studying the way Ukraine changed from having an entirely ineffective army (admittedly, mostly because it was tiny) that got bowled over in the first invasion (of the Krim), to then turn it around within a span of about 8 years to quite effectively resist the same enemy - that's gonna be very interesting.

Possibly it's the simplest explanation: Having an active warzone for 8 years (Donbass) means you're motivated, trained, and uniquely experienced. But I feel it's worth looking into exactly how Ukraine turned it all around. From logistics, resistance, morale, training, cohesion, and even internal nation-building (If I recall correctly, during the Krim invasion most of the Ukrainian populace barely considered their country a cohesive place at all).

USA has a shit track record of speedily exporting their doctrine and setup to countries not to used to it and not within the confines of NATO (see: Afghanistan and Iraq), at least recently (admittedly those south american death squads were trained better), so it's more interesting than just 'well they got training from USA/NATO forces'.

Thanks for the link.

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u/Ryhopes Sep 27 '22

Supply lines, reinforcement, and interior lines.

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u/makkris Sep 26 '22

130k vs. 400-600k . She is seriously talking to 6 people and a camera man like they are the ones to save the day. " Hi six guys, there are 100's of thousands of people fighting a war out there. In exchange for your service we have no supplies for you . So good luck and give'm hell boys!" Yeah O.K.

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u/A_Tad_Bit_Nefarious Sep 27 '22

She's giving them a pep talk to keep them alive. Which is not the same as winning the war (in a way, it's better than winning).

If you were a concerned mother, would you not give them tips on surviving? Tampons and pads are litterally the last resort when it comes to combat first aid. That's how desperate they are for supplies.

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Sep 27 '22

"Now don't laugh" has heavy "take this very seriously if you're first inclination is to think I'm kidding. I've seen people do it since my first war and it works."

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u/A_Tad_Bit_Nefarious Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

For sure, they're better than nothing but absolutely not ideal.

People would to preach this method in the early days of Iraq and Afghanistan too. Since they would often find themselves running short on adequate medical supplies. But pads and tampons don't work to arrest massive hemorrhaging like a true pack of gauze will. Especially the Quick Clot Combat Gauze that every US service member has in their first aid kit today.

The early days of the wars really opened up a new wave of technology and preparedness when it comes to combat medicine. Since so many people were dying due to the lack of adequate medical supplies and training.

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u/m1dn1g47 Sep 27 '22

“Massive man power advantage Ukraine has..” vs Russia. Tell me this in February I say you are out of your mind

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u/indifferentCajun Sep 27 '22

Putin keeps threatening to send the entire army. Like, dude, you're sending random dudes off the street, you got another secret army you're just waiting to send?

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u/BorisofKislev Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 26 '22 Silver Gold

They've been doing this for the last 300 years. It's not just Putin, it's Russian mentality. They don't respect the individual. That's how Peter the Great won the great Northern war. Threw a shit ton of soldiers at Karl XII and lost three or four times. Then he brought even more to Poltava and won because even the Swedes couldn't take on such big numbers.

Then there's the Winter War. Russians did the same, I kid you not. The Finnish fought like lions and were real badasses, they stopped wave after wave of Russian forces. But Russians were so numerous they took 30% of Finnish territory because there was just too many of them. They were dying, freezing to death and starving, but Stalin didn't give two flying fucks. He just wanted to win.

Or look at the battle of Stalingrad. Stalin refused to allow civilians to evacuate from the city because he wanted more manpower to fight the Germans.

Russians don't care about their own, they don't care about the enemy, they don't have the word "casualties" in their vocabulary unless it's to brag about it (like they did after ww2).

EDIT: I'm not denying they had some really good generals throughout history, like Suvorov, Kutuzov, Konjev, Rokosovski, or Žukov. However, if you were to compare the ratio of how many battles and wars they won because of their battle prowess to how many they won because of sheer fucking numbers, I believe the battles won due to overwhelming number of people used as cannon fodder would be in a big lead.

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u/PolarBearBalls2 Sep 27 '22

I don't think it'll work that well nowadays because western weaponry has gotten better at deleting people

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u/NewHighInMediocrity Sep 27 '22

What’s the saying, Quantity has a quality all of its own (?)

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u/jdbostrom Sep 27 '22

Putin should get the Mussolini treatment.

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u/Kriem Sep 27 '22

Or the Ceaușescu one

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u/callmeapoetandudie Sep 27 '22

Yeah exactly, no pageantry, just bullets, lots of bullets.

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u/EngadinePoopey Sep 27 '22

Better yet, Gaddafi

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u/rubbleTelescope Expert Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Sad, this is one too few steps towards certain death or....immediately surrendering to the nearest opposition.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

That is, hands down, the shittiest pep talk I've ever experienced. Here's your complimentary sleeping bag, now go scavenge for tampons.

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u/Hoosier108 Sep 27 '22

Pretty sure she said bring your own sleeping bag.

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u/Stag328 Sep 27 '22

Ya they only provide uniforms and armor….what more could you want?

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u/Clams_N_Scallops Sep 27 '22

A gun would be nice, but I saw the video of the rotten and rusted out AK's they're handing out to the new "elite" units.

The US could steamroll Russia at any point, sell it off to China to settle some debts, and there would be one less dictatorship in the world.

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u/Stag328 Sep 27 '22

That would give China a lot more land and resources though…..and those debts are never being paid.

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u/Mowfling Sep 27 '22

The US could steamroll Russia at any point

unfortunately no, nukes are still a thing, and right now they allow russia and china to swing their dicks without direct repercussions

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u/invagueoutlines Sep 27 '22

She’s giving them the best advice she can give them. That’s it.

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u/remmij Sep 27 '22

Yeah, that's how I saw it.

She is not sugarcoating anything and is giving them the hard truths they need to hear.

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u/triggerfingerfetish Sep 27 '22

"You go to war with the Army you have, not the Army you want" - Donald Rumsfeld

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u/PicardAtTanagra Sep 27 '22

It's not a pep talk. She is likely a logistics officer or enlisted equivalent, tell them straight up what she has and doesn't have. Additionally, she allowed someone to record it. I think she cares more than you might think. At the end I felt like I could hear some sadness in her.

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u/RonaldZheMelon Sep 26 '22

well, if they surrender to the ukranians, they actually get a free get-out-of-russia card, obviously not for all cuz family 'n stuff, but better to stay alive in a cell than die in the name of a madman ._.

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u/ImAnAfricanCanuck Sep 27 '22

cant surrender when your own officers shoot you before you can do it. If they get close enough to the ukrainians they're probably already dead.

It's a death trap for Ukrainians to even walk up to russians who say they want to surrender as well.

The dynamics for that to happen have to be perfect, and unfortunately for these men its just not something easily achievable, especially considering they may end up in a captive video for propaganda purposes that ask them why they surrendered - putting their families at risk.

It's just an unfathomably terrible situation.

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u/EC_CO Interested Sep 27 '22

Can't get shot by the officers if you get to shoot them first

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u/twowaysplit Sep 27 '22

Assuming your gun works, at all.

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u/Nervous_Constant_642 Sep 27 '22

You ever hear about fragging an officer? Got a problem officer, you drop a frag grenade in their tent while they sleep. You don't have a problem officer anymore.

Concept works with more than just grenades.

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u/portirfer Sep 27 '22

It is terrible. If there is a significant percentage that wants to surrender and assuming that Ukrainians want Russians to surrender rather than kill those who want to surrender but yet they can’t do that due to the complications of the situation.

If there only was a safe way to surrender for the Russians that don’t want to fight Ukrainians and an effective way to signal to the Ukrainians that they want to surrender that simultaneously could be guaranteed to not be deceptive/false surrendering that endangers Ukrainians, then I guess the incentives would be right for everyone.

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u/bee144 Sep 27 '22

Fuck Putin and fuck anyone who supports him.

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u/Generallyawkward1 Sep 27 '22

Damn this is so crazy. Russia just straight up kidnapped people off the street to fight their losing war?

Also, tampons are not designed to stop bleeding but simply absorb it. Tourniquets are essential.

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u/supagirl277 Sep 27 '22

It’s the fact that they expand into the walls that helps

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u/blacklotusmag Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22 Silver

I know we're supposed to hate our enemies, but I don't. I'm sad for these guys...dads, brothers, sons, torn from their lives to fight a war the vast majority of them don't want to fight. Sent to the front lines with old weapons, untrained, shoddy armor (if they get any at all), poor food rations...so they can die fighting a country filled with their cousins.

The whole thing is heartbreaking and incredibly unfair, to both sides.

Edit: thank you for silver

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

The boys in this video are most likely the ones being forced into service. They’ve done nothing wrong.

Fortunately a lot of the worst people in the Russian military have gotten ground into sunflower soil. That’s one of the few good things to happen in this horrible war.

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u/StrayRabbit Sep 27 '22

Russia still fighting like it's WW2

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u/run1792 Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Jesus. These poor bastards are going to die horrible deaths for nothing.

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u/olderstouts Sep 26 '22

War sucks.

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u/ohthatjoshua Sep 26 '22

Special tampon operation.

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u/josephmgrace Sep 26 '22

I had pads and tampons in the US Army in Afghanistan. They're great for trauma. But we didn't have to pay for them.

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u/Thick_Improvement_77 Sep 26 '22

That's because they're designed for that - at least originally. What would become tampons and pads started as WW1 field medicine supplies.

The Great War eventually died down, leaving a surplus of supplies designed to stop bleeding, and a relative shortage of bleeders, so a little rebranding was in order.

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u/notallowedin Sep 26 '22

I learned something new today!

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u/GydeonRL Sep 27 '22

Interestingly, they are now regarded as a bad idea- they swell in size but don't really apply any pressure to the wound, so the don't stop bleeding. Supposedly- I've never had to try, luckily- a t-shirt provides much more suitable material for "wound packing".

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u/ProphetsC Sep 27 '22

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I’m a Tac-Med Instructor and this is one of the 1st things we have to beat into people’s heads, don’t use this shit, it’s almost non-existent in providing any useful aid.

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u/KingHalfrican86 Sep 27 '22

Them after they have that little laugh.

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u/RichardMayo Sep 26 '22

Better off putting up a fight with that lady than a Ukrainian drone grenade. If only they realized that.

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u/LakoriRi Sep 26 '22

She's more likely to be a medic, not their boss. Fighting with her won't do them any good

And, as it already was said above - she worries about them. I hear the sympathy in her voice

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u/boiiiii-rarted Sep 26 '22

“Guys, take care of yourself if possible, please”

Fuck Putin. He’s throwing Ukrainian and Russian lives away for nothing

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u/ohp250 Sep 27 '22

Not just Putin. There’s a lot of 1%ers getting rich off this and every other war.

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u/Fridayz44 Sep 27 '22

War is profitable, and business is great!

I hate that statement is true, it disgusts me.

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u/taichi22 Sep 27 '22

Yeah, this lady is likely their quartermaster or something. She knows most of these men are going to their deaths, and it seems like she’s trying to keep as many as possible alive.

Tough position to be in.

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u/ftrlvb Creator Sep 26 '22

shes sorry for them, too. fighting her will not help, they will be shot right away.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

She’s trying to help. And she’s not (here) arming them. She’s helping them survive with basic things, because Russia didn’t have the supplies they needed for the initial force let alone this new force.

I’m all for these young men surviving. They have done nothing wrong as far as I know.

I have a feeling there are very few men who are going gleefully into the meat grinder.

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u/Buttofmud Sep 26 '22

How does this video get out?

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u/Evolioz Sep 27 '22

They have internet in Russia too. Honestly it's not all that surprising that videos like these get out, it only takes one guy disgruntled by the war and the mobilization, a smartphone, and an internet connection.

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u/100persentstardust Sep 27 '22

same way as the video where prigozhin recruits people for his wagner group. for some reason they don't care that they are being filmed.

what's even more stupid is that sometimes they give permission to post this videos somewhere (or literally post them themselves???). there is one video where there is meeting happening in wagner camp (or something like that, don't remember exactly). after video ends, man who filmed it asks prigozhin (!!!) if he can post it online. prigozhin approves.

so the answer to your question is: russians just don't care about anything at this point. (source: i'm russian)

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u/thinkscotty Sep 27 '22

Russia isn’t North Korea man, they have the internet there and it’s mostly open. It could have been uploaded via the official Reddit app just like you or I would.

This was probably uploaded anonymously to a Telegram channel, that’s the preferred way first-hand Ukraine war videos are being distributed.

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u/stop-checking-trops Sep 27 '22

Is there any chance this is just propaganda? (Not a Russian bot I swear - just also surprised by the video and how efficiently ludicrous it was)

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u/curiousbydesign Sep 27 '22

I was thinking the same thing. The perfect recording. I am with Ukraine. But I also am skeptical when it comes to propaganda (either/all sides, etc.).

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

Recruits have been filming all sorts of shit and putting it online. Like the guy shooting the enlistment officer was filmed.. There's no reason to fake this when it's seriously this dire and sad on its own.

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u/grant_tl14 Sep 26 '22

Sending these poor men to get slaughtered. They have no will or reason to fight and don’t even know how to shoot properly. Russia is as weak as could be now.

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u/schittluck Sep 26 '22

So it IS Stalingrad 2.0

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u/SupremeLeaderOfDingo Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Yep that was the original use for tampons, they were also laced with morphine. Super glue and duct tape was also created for the battlefield. people always laugh when I tell them when they get cut on their hands to use super glue

Edit: my bad. I was under the impression people on Reddit had a sense of humor. next time I will include a /S or a laughing face emoji to avoid confusion

I was referring to the The 1920s box of opium laced tampons that made its rounds on Reddit

Obviously duck tape and superglue are for emergency situations only. and there’s plenty of medical adhesive and liquid skin Products

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u/Delta-07 Interested Sep 27 '22

Please do not use tampons in an emergency medical context if you have literally any other option. A modern tampon is not going to be effective in stopping a massive arterial hemorrhage. Gauze, T-shirt material, and Microfiber cloth are much better, and you'll need far mor material than is in a tampon to pack a wound and stop the bleed.

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u/CozmicOwl16 Sep 27 '22

Actually nail glue is better. It doesn’t burn at all but closes the cut and then you can use a dollar store manicure buffer to smooth it. I hate bandaids.

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u/OK_Mason_721 Sep 26 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

Interesting fact. I deployed to Iraq multiple times. I, and all of my Marines and Corpsman carried tampons in our med kits and squad bags. Also, the American military refused to issue them to us and our parents had to send them in care packages. Shit on them all you want, but at least this chick is giving these doomed men one solid piece of advice before they die.

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u/IFixYerKids Sep 26 '22

Yea, the problem isn't using tapons, it's that they're not quipping them with anything.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

I hope no one is shitting on the solid survival advice being given here.

I think it’s more that apparently Russia isn’t giving these poor boys any more than “uniforms and armor” to March to their certain death.

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u/BendTheSpoonNeo Sep 26 '22 Silver

Looks like Russia is ripe for its own invasion.

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u/OrbPuppy Sep 27 '22

As a US Army combat medic, please for the love of God don't put a tampon in a bullet hole, it will do literally nothing. Apply direct pressure or make an improvised tourniquet.

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u/Tripdoctor Sep 27 '22

So I hope the world is prepared for the dissolution of Russia as a country.

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u/Raaxis Sep 27 '22

I’ve been this medic giving this exact briefing before.

Austere environments happen in war. Supply lines get fucked. Medical equipment gets ratfucked or stolen, due to its value. Even if you are fully equipped, taking multiple casualties can deplete key supplies like tourniquets and gauze in minutes.

The US has long taught its medics and soldiers to improvise tourniquets and pressure dressings/bandages out of readily available materials like clothing and sticks.

Where everyone else sees a first-world nation underequipping its infantry, I hear a medic doing the best she can with what she has, trying to save as many lives as possible.

The tampons thing is fucking dumb though, don’t put tampons in bullet wounds, y’all.

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u/agoodfuckingcatholic Sep 26 '22

R.I.P any soul lost in war. Following orders from the ones who refuse to put themselves on the front lines.

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u/professionalCoffe Sep 27 '22

This just reminded me of the opening scene of enemy at the Gates, where they distribute one rifle every two soldiers "If he dies you take rifle"

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u/DetectiveStock1340 Sep 27 '22

This is how Russian war has been for the last century, possibly longer. They just send in waves of their men without supplies.

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u/tptmat Sep 26 '22

Is it that cold in late September?

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u/Mysterious-Bonus2454 Sep 26 '22

Ice on windshields some early mornings in Sweden. Probably colder here though. 50 F in Kiev now midnight.

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u/Spiritual-Mushroom28 Sep 27 '22

Oh hell 😩😩😩

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u/miketangoalpha Sep 27 '22

Please please please do not put Tampons into puncture wounds. They do nothing to address the injury they just soak up blood and then become nearly impossible to remove in a post injury setting and will continue to draw blood away from your organs. Cover, pressure and even makeshift tourniquets to reduce blood flow

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